I am Eric Forman
This was the moment when I started shipping Jackie and Hyde. I love it firstly because it shows a hitherto unseen side of Jackie, both to us and to Hyde, and secondly because it reveals what they both have in common: absent/dysfunctional parents. Yes, it’s brief, but it hints that maybe they have more in common than they thought.
Lastly, I LOVE Red in this whole episode. It’s clear that he’s the best father figure that either Hyde or Jackie have, and he knows it, and he doesn’t take that role lightly, no matter how much he complains about it sometimes. I always felt like this moment was Red’s version of Kitty’s “pow!” in S3. Just look at the way he watches Hyde after she dives back under the car, and they way Hyde turns back to see her again. I think that Red knows exactly where these two will end up, long before anyone else does, because of this moment.
Red’s the best <3
(#mine - originally posted at pia-lexandra)
Jackie’s flat, exacting gaze traveled down Eric’s form and hovered around his pelvis. “So what is it? Eight inches?”
Eric cleared his throat and looked behind himself to check for eavesdroppers. “Is that - are you - um, are you talking about my penis, Jackie?”
He looked at her in disbelief, almost vibrating with resentment. “You think I’m holding a monster wang, and that’s the reason Donna is with me?”
She crossed her arms over her chest and cocked a hip in his direction. “Do you have a better theory?”
"That’s…" He held his finger up as if about to launch into a furious tirade, then suddenly dropped it like a withering balloon that somebody had let all of the air out of. "Yeah. You know, devil, I can’t even be mad about that one. In fact, of all of your insults over the years, I am shockingly okay with this one."
Jackie caught Hyde’s eye from across the room. He quickly broke away from his conversation with Kitty and bounded toward her. “You didn’t just tell him your ridiculous dick theory, did you?” He wrapped his arms around her waist in an obvious bid to keep her under control.
"Of course I did, Steven," she sniffed, straining against his grip.
Hyde’s mouth twisted into an angry scowl. “I told you to wait for me! I was looking forward to that, man.”
Eric stared back and forth between the two of them, utterly mystified. “I’m standing right here.”
I know fans of my T70S fan fics have all been waiting forever for the end of that story, and I *did* mean it when I promised I would not abandon it.
I got very sidetracked by my VM obsession, but I always knew I would eventually get it to you…even if it was starting to look improbable.
Well, it looks like that ‘eventually’ will come soon(!)
Color me surprised!
It’s not that Liam isn’t a decent actor (I would have liked to see him in another role), it’s just that Andy was SO much better at the role of Spartacus. He had more gravitas and humor and said a lot more with his eyes. Also, he had a world-weariness that can only come with age. Liam is just a little too fresh-faced for the part of a guy who’s been put through the wringer.
Because Andy was such a subtle actor, you didn’t really notice how much his energy was anchoring the show until he wasn’t there anymore to provide it. Needless to say, I’m still really missing his presence.
And now with Lucy Lawless gone (sob!!!), I’m finding myself really bored. The only characters left whom I like are (my boyfriend) Agron and Gannicus, and Gannicus is kind of one-note TBH. Plus - and this is a random side thought - but is it my imagination or does he always sound like he’s slurring his words?
I know people really love this final season, but I’m struggling to understand why when there are so few interesting characters left. Marcus Crassus is actually a great addition, but he’s the villain, so I can’t exactly root for him.
Sigh. Does it get better? Will I start caring again? Can any Spartans out there chime in and give me hope?
PS - I’m already spoiled on the fate of my boyfriend, so at least I have that to look forward to, I guess :)
"Although I like that most actors are friends and were in Veronica Mars and Burning Love, I’d get tired to see the same people over and over again in the show."
Disagree. I would watch these people in every single episode of any show.
Maps, they don’t judge you like I judge you.
WTF??? Lol I don’t get the Canada reference on the map, but seems pretty spot on about NYC + the boroughs, happilyshanghaied :P.
"Doomed baseball team" pfft more like GO UNDERDOGS!! xD
This is all true. All of it.
Was surprised this parallel gifset hadn’t been done, yet i’ve seen so much discussion on it. mars-wan-kenobi for you. :)
ok jokes aside tho………..
ITS PAINFUL TO WATCH EVEN ON GIF VERSION OK. LIKE. "ITS KIND OF A BAD FEELING HUH?" I CANT BELIEVE THIS MOTHERFUCKING ASSHOLE RN!!!!!!!!!!!
THE GIRL IS CRYING, AND FREAKING OUT BC YOU RAPED HER/SHE FELT RAPED BY YOU AND THE DOUCHE IS JUST LIKE ”SUCKS HUH??????????” I hate him I hate him I hate him I cannot even deal with this I swear
I dont care what anyone says but how can you look at this moment and tell me logan is the bad guy!?!?!?
yeah he has issues and makes mistakes but in that moment all fucking duncan cared about was that how dare she accuse him? and proceeds to make this all about HIM..
while ALL logan cares about is veronica.. he doesnt care about clearing his name or whatever that shit is just never really important to him (unless he is going to jail obviously hahaha) all he cares about is what happened to veronica and how can he make it better for her.. *fix you by coldplay starts playing while I cry*
and then logan apologizes the GHB thing, but duncan never apologizes for SHIT, not for the incident itself (I still think it was rape tbh) not for leaving her there feeling like shit, not for the way he reacted when she accused him, not for anythingggg-ever-at all
filed under: #fucking donut
Can i also add . It’s not giffed here but in the same scene with Logan, Veronica also accuses him of being her rapist and claims at the very end before she slams the door that EVEN IF ITS HIM . SHE WILL MAKE WHOEVER DID THIS TO HER PAY. And throughout all of this Logan never raises his voice to her, makes a move comfort her but when she tells him to back off he quickly retreats and respects her space. Also he lets her. When she says she will find out whoever did this, he lets her do her thing without interference. And lets her come to him.
He also doesn’t lie. Instead he only tries to clarify the truth . He could have easily tried to lie about the GHB. But instead he is honest about it and why he got the drugs in the first place. And it wasn’t for the purposes of raping or sleeping with women in his eyes. He makes it known to Veronica. He was stupid and it was a very very stupid decision that he never made again. To my knowledge?
He only ever shows how much he loves and cares for Veronica and i love that so much.
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!! on the gifset she implies she suspects of him doing it but right after she says “EVEN IF ITS YOU" and he NEVER reacts like duncan did!!!!!!! he sees veronica’s pain and THAT is what hurts him.. he is hurt because veronica is hurt, not because he’s been accused..
its as simple as that, duncan only cared about himself and the accusations against him. Logan instead cared about veronica, what happened to her, her feelings, and trying to make it better.. That difference means the world to me..
And after that, the fact that duncan is completely unapologetic about EVERYTHING while logan owns up even to the slightest indirect responsability he might have had and apologizes to her..
even AFTER veronica tells him she’s ok and she knows he is innocent, and after she tells herself and logan “it wasnt rape” because it was duncan.. even after veronica has told him (and herself) to kind of “let it go” he still “cant take that he hurt her, when all he wants is to protect her” he still realizes that even if veronica is kind of shrugging it off now IT HURT HER. she felt raped, she felt the pain and the trauma, all of that was real to her for a whole year.. and duncan doesnt care but logan does..
Amen to that. What I don’t get and will never get is how she gets back together with fucking donut after everything..i know i know she was trying to hold on to some of her happy past but come onnnn, it was one of the least self aware things Veronica has ever done
and YES I cant believe it either.. it wasnt love-triangle rage it wasnt because my otp broke up it was that I CANT FUCKING BELIEVE SOMEONE COULD EVER GET BACK TOGETHER WITH A PERSON LIKE DUNCAN AFTER ALL THAT..
I get the version that she wanted to get back to normal and forgive and forget but it still doesnt make it any less off-putting for me.. =/
Yes bcos “Veronica Mars is smarter than me”, she’s supposed to be smarter that all of us. At least smarter than that..but I guess this was very true to who she was, smart when it came to the crime stuff, not so smart when it came to the emotion stuff, especially if her own emotions were involved.
I really don’t get how she could go from Logan to Duncan so fast as well, she had to know how it would affect Logan. Season 2 Veronica’s actions were a really head-scratcher at times but what I can say I love the girl flaws and all
I will never understand how Duncan continually evades, lies, & is generally sketchy, yet Veronica rarely calls him on it. It’s like he gets a free pass for everything. Same with Piz. However, Logan is nailed to the wall for every infraction, both minor & imaginary. It’s such a double-standard that I fail to comprehend it.
EXACTLY that was also my problem with S2……….. after everything that happened with duncan..
after she also thought he murderded lilly for a while, after the rape/non rape thing, after he kept his “illness” from her and logan..
after he kept from her the fact that they might have been sibilings??!!?!?!?!?!? like I get it he was freaking out but veronica was his girlfriend ?? and he just dumps her without so much as an explanation and then it takes veronica to come up to him and accuse him of rape and murder for him to tell her the truth and “come clean”?? even tho veronica had obviously already figured it our on her own, the fact remains he lied and kept it from her all this time.. how can you trust a person after that????
the ideal barbie-ken relationship they were trying to sell us just completely falls apart after that…
I get that you can forgive and forget but I cant for the love of fuck understand starting a relationship again after that… specially coming from little miss “im not programmed to forgive and forget”…
and after all that.. I CANT and will never understand veronica’s mistrust..
on S3 they tell us her mistrust of logan is because she spent her formative years watching people lie and cheat and bla bla.. but then how the hell is it that we NEVER saw that with duncan on s2????? all her trust issues are ALWAYS directed to logan but never to duncan or even piz… I always thought that was most unfair specially considering the discussed above.. that logan makes mistakes and fucks up but he comes clean, he apologizes, he is honest with her..
Yeah, it never made sense that she didn’t trust Logan but trusted Duncan, especially after the events of S1. You’d think she’d be suspicious across the board, at the very least.
I can understand still holding onto some resentment and fear that Logan could turn on her again, but then she should logically also have been worried about Duncan’s character failings (which were so much more egregious IMO)?
All I can think of is that perhaps she idealized Duncan and her early time with him - and especially the untouched naïf she was during their first relationship - and refused to believe that the Duncan of season 2 was the ‘real’ Duncan. Maybe she figured that if s2 Duncan wasn’t the ‘real’ Duncan (but rather, one affected by unfortunate circumstances), then s2 Veronica was not the real Veronica either.
As usual, my meta swings back toward Veronica’s view of herself. I always think her choice of man ultimately is about her (in)ability to accept who she is. This is why it’s not a coincidence that she chooses Logan in the movie, while at the same time moving home and finally accepting that she’s meant to be a PI.
Being with Logan represents her accepting the dark parts of herself. By choosing to overlook Duncan’s flaws in s2, she was avoiding self-examination and really just running from herself.
He is too pretty.
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A compilation of my favourite ‘we’re all killers’ posts.
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Now think of how many of those female characters and protagonists are oversexed, created for the male gaze, or put in an inactive damsel role for the plot of the game. Representation matters. A Study last year proved that exposure to tv shows increased the self esteem of young white boys and markedly decreased the confidence and self esteem of girls across the board (and we haven’t even started on the representation of characters of color and the effect it has on children’s self perception).
Video games are a different media, and even more concerning if representation metrics are changing how our kids think of themselves. Especially knowing that 67% of American Households have video game consoles and 91% of Children play video games regularly, how do you think the portrayal (and lack of portrayals) of women and girls in these games is affecting little girls – or influencing how little boys view their importance and/or influence over them?
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